SocialWebFoundation - what do people think?

We just recently had a big thread about problems with ActivityPub, so in some ways I guess we’re already thinking about it? :sweat_smile:

Personally, with the issues I’ve learned about ActivityPub and from what I’ve gathered that other people have talked about, it really seems like AP is ripe for a 2.0, or a spiritual successor, and this is while not even considering the SWF. The way the SWF is talking about AP 1.0 just makes me want to “fork”, if I can even use that term. These motivations are compounding.

Are there any existing promising protocols out there that could satisfy/fix the issues we’re seeing? Ideally while simultaneously not being too different from ActivityPub so that a potential migration would be feasible? I honestly don’t know the ecosystem out there. It’s very tempting to just try writing a new protocol obviously…

Leaf sounds interesting but perhaps too complicated for this use-case? Willow seems to be a very general thing, but I think we can be more specific (and therefore simpler) when we know that we want to constrain ourselves to whatever the “social web” means.

Veilid sounds very technical - can this be user friendly enough? I’ve tried getting software engineer friends to sign up for Matrix and even that was difficult!

I would not trust Bluesky or any other centralized entity to be the future of the fediverse, especially not a profit-based one.

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