At the top of the hour is the usual time for the next SocialCG. Are we having one? I’ll show up at the usual place if anyone else does also.
But it feels like the SocialCG is, and has been, spinning its wheels for a long time, for two reasons:
- I’m too busy to organize, though I’m happy to run (or scribe) meetings, as I’ve said before. I’ve been fairly clear about this and have made various attempts to get others to help me do the organization but people are busy and it hasn’t happened… at the end of the day, I still remain the primary organizer, and I’m not good at it.
- I don’t think the state of the SocialCG reflects the current structure of fediverse activity. The structure today reflects the structure of the SocialWG: list agenda items beforehand and go through them, and it’s mostly talk. Fediverse and ActivityPub development are vibrant places right now. I don’t know about you, but it doesn’t feel like the SocialCG currently reflects that vibrancy.
I have a suggestion on what we could do: have regular meetings, and people can schedule important action items, but in the general case it can be more like a usergroup first. By that I mean, we’ll switch from my Mumble server (audio-only) to an audio-video setup (like Jitsi Meet) and people can give presentations on what they’re working on… and if there aren’t presentations to give, we can at least talk about interesting topics that have come up on this forum. Thus this becomes more of an implementer support and idea generation group.
That last sentence reflects how SocialHub can perform interesting and useful roles for this group: a space for people to lay out ideas. If a thread becomes sufficiently interesting, someone can say “I think this would be interesting to talk about on the next SocialCG call!”
We can still do important decision-making-with-consensus when necessary, but my gut feeling is that this isn’t nearly as necessary as it currently is prioritized. There may be a time where it becomes so again… likely at a time where we have something else we want to make standards-track.
The alternate options are:
- Just put the SocialCG on hiatus, re-activating it when a real need is expressed from the community.
- Have meetings when there’s enough topic interest in having meetings. For a while when @nightpool was organizing, this was the structure we used, and honestly I thought it was going fairly well, though other people in the community complained about not having a regular time. We went back to a regular time but for whatever reason I think the quality of the meetings decreased after that move. (Maybe it’s because I then effectively became the de-facto organizer again, and honestly I think @nightpool did a better job than I did.)
But what do people think?
If you want to talk about it with me, I’ll be on Mumble at the top of the hour, or we can on this thread for now. (Though I’m not very good at keeping on track of this place admittedly, so ping me on the fediverse if I’m missing important updates to this thread.)