I am not sure where to post this. No categories seem exactly right but community seems like the best place to start. I am interested in connecting with people who are interested in possible ideas for, and building new products on AP. If anyone knows good forums here or elsewhere, I’d appreciate any guidance. Regards
Welcome @nebo333!
What kind of products do you have in mind?
In general, people on the Fediverse flee the ad-overloaded corporate social media, but there are occurrences of interesting things to do, like handling donations, peerfunding, and micro-payments. There are two relevant FEPs on FEP-0ea0: Payment Links and FEP-8c3f: Web Monetization, as well as Questions about payments that could be of interest to you.
Thank you very much for the reply and the links to current or previously proposed projects / FEPs. Hugely appreciated!! These look interesting and somewhat nascent.
What I am looking at or see as a problem isn’t new per se but does seem unresolved. Frankly, I don’t see why AP isn’t used more robustly as a content distribution protocol that enables in-app consumption of formatted long form content, whether text or audio. [I know it is theoretically possible albeit with some complexities and Wordpress for example offers some plug-ins for their content and activity streams].
Additionally, how could AP enable subscriptions to paid content, also without jumping out of a given application. I want to receive, consumer, interact and pay for content in one place.
I am not wedded to distributed payment systems / crypto and see waiting for that as a drag. I don’t see micro payments doing the job although one-off payments e.g. for an article, makes sense. I am interested in first rate consumer experiences where the creator owns the relationship while the platform i.e. some theoretical consumer app, provides value via the UX.
Thanks again for the links. I’ll keep reviewing.
Faircamp is an attempt to replace Bandcamp to give musicians ownership of their own creations. There’s a payment page in the manual but I don’t think Faircamp is AP-compliant yet. Indeed in-app payments would be cool.
There’s also sub.club (https://subclub.social/) which operates as an ActivityPub server with Follow Requests which are only Accept’ed once there is a payment linked to the actor who sent the Follow Request. (I believe they DM you on Follow Request to give you a way to pay)
Further on this would be “custom audiences”, which are collections that you can use for addressing content to (much like followers, but more limited membership). This requires support in downstream software.
great thank you @thisismissem subclub looks very interesting. DM approach sounds a little too high friction, but I will reach out to them and take a look.
I was thinking collections myself for paid versus free groups. So yeah, have been researching the possible issues with that across servers or apps and how to ensure those apps that don’t support groups / collections, some how provide transparency that that is the case.
Thanks again
thanks I will take a look
Somewhere on my Mastodon I have a thread about this, and then I raised issues I saw on the ActivityPub repository around collection Add/Remove.
This functionality exists in Mitra. It uses FEP-0837: Federated Marketplace protocol for cross-server interactions, with some additions. You can read about implementation details in FEDERATION.md
file: mitra/FEDERATION.md at main - silverpill/mitra - Codeberg.org
I see Mitra is invite only but the broader protocol seems useful - payments and paid sub collections. Thanks
No, it’s not invite only. It is an open source ActivityPub server - like Mastodon, but with subscriptions.
ok i was looking at the demo instance link. thanks
See Mitra here.