2021-01-09 SocialCG Meeting - FEP

[Sebastian]

2021-01-09T15:00:00Z

Topic

FEP

@pukkamustard
and @cjs

FEP-a4ed: The Fediverse Enhancement Proposal Process

Hello Fediverse, This is call for feedback and comments on the initial Fediverse Enhancement Proposal (FEP): FEP-a4ed: The Fediverse Enhancement Proposal Process. Summary: A Fediverse Enhancement Proposal (FEP) is a document that provides information to the Fediverse community. The goal of a FEP is to improve interoperability and well-being of diverse services, applications and communities that form the Fediverse. This document describes the scope, format and process of publishing Fedivers…

which started probably here: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fediverse-enhancement-proposal-fep/1059:

• FEP-a4edc7b: The Fediverse Enhancement Proposal Process @pukkamustard

• Proposal: Mechanism for synchronizing followers lists across servers @Claire

• Come Help: List of FEPs Needed @cjs

• the FEP Index

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<personalOpinion>
and there were many things many people wanted to talk about in 2020 but
were censored due to “time constraints” - I could understand if users like @nedjo
who gave us all the nice thoughts and writings are very disappointed.
I would like to talk 12 hours this time.
</personalOpinion>

The waitlist

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alsoKnownAs and Link Relations

Following up on Defining alsoKnownAs
@rhiaro
but also on the adhoc discussion in SocialCG IRC [sorry for the mess]

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Structure of W3C Social CG and official site

• guides
• site
  Please see Look and feel by
  @rigelk
• wiki
• OpenCollective
• Official fediverse account (some days ago made https://gup.pe/u/activitypub for rC3)
• fediverse.space

@how asked “Is there a way to communicate to W3C that promoting decentralization and using Microsoft services are antithetical?” /me added “and using google captcha and putting forms what a computer thinks we do and not giving the community space and getting EFF back in the boat and …”

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Building the Policy Group

16 people want to join the Policy Group, we need a meeting time, how to ?

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Fediverse Futures

agree to @aschrijver

AFAIK the Fediverse Futures group has not been followed-up on.

Here is a diferent twist

Fediverse Futures: Visions & dreams. Feedback wanted

When typing the title, Discourse suggest this topic with similar title: AFAIK the Fediverse Futures group has not been followed-up on. But I want to discuss a different twist to it. Everything and everyone involved in evolving the Fediverse is doing so from a highly technical perspective and mindset. This is logical as we are organically discovering the technical foundations for a new social web, based on a technology standard. But I notice this narrow focus is also leading to a general lack …

related: We want to talk about how we can make our clients work together and how we get generic servers so that users content does not get lost and that we do not have our life fragmented between 9 services
(for example here mastodon.social [sl007], chaos.social [redaktor], octodon.social [secret], conf.tube [apconf], pixelfed.social [apconf], gup.pe [activitypub], redaktor alpha, immers.space [sl007], funkwhale etc.)

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The not existing official Test Suite and making the inofficial an official

We wanted to talk about that in 3 different Social CGs but it whas concensus that we do not have time.
November 19

The ActivityPub test suite

test.activitypub.rocks has been down for a long time, as pretty much everyone knows. More or less it’s server issues, and I can be blamed since I run the server (and wrote the test suite). Why hasn’t it gone back up though? Mainly because I’m a) very busy b) know how poor the test suite is at fulfilling the needs of the community and that makes it hard to feel motivated to put in the work. Here are some quirks about test.activitypub.rocks: It was done in a rush to meet the standards deadli…

July 2020 – A heavy thank you @cjs for “Just Do It!”

Unofficial Test Suite (go-fed/testsuite)

Sneak peek: https://test.activitypub.dev/ Please feel free to file issues. Caveats: UI is ugly The “C2S” option in the “new test” page does nothing. You’ll probably want to check the “S2S” one. Once you begin the test, you’ll have to refresh the page manually to get updates. Once instructions show, testing is paused and awaiting your input Did I mention the UI is ugly? I haven’t done but the bare minimum for the instructions, etc. Known problem with the “done” button for the one test that ha…

and now:
How does it become official? The lack is a very hindering reason for some of us
There is also FediDB by
@dansup

After that: Somebody but not CJ, dansup or me should answer the 80 questions about this …

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Generic Server for diverse clients

We wanted to talk about generic servers. It is only solvable by talking to each other.
pleroma: @lanodan
and https://web.immers.space 3D: @datatitian
and @birdsofpraise
and @loweel@boseburo.ddns.net and @marius

related 1
related 2
more related 100 posts

thank you, by random I noticed a solution to a “bug”, mastodon makes preferredUsername a MUST :: ¯\__(ツ)_/¯

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Making Hashtag an extension

as Chris noted for the first November meeting, we should talk about this

"Topics" and Services we can subscribe to

At the end of the bof session I had a question about the type Hashtag and where it comes from. I was curious as we where thinking about adding another type (e.g. Category) to refer to a topic from a controlled vocabulary. Taking an example toot one finds the following in the JSON: { "@context":[ "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams", { "ostatus":"http://ostatus.org#", "atomUri":"ostatus:atomUri", "inReplyToAtomUri":"ostatus:inReplyToAtomUri", …

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Groups in AP

is, what we should also talk about …

@grishka
and
@ngerakines

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btw:
I do not remember the elder things we promised to talk about, but did not, so I stop here.

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Wiki

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SocialCG - W3C Wiki

2021-01-09T15:00:00Z

Join the meeting everybody:

Join via jitsi – chat and vote in #social on freenode: Web Chat

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<personalOpinion>
1 hour is ridiculuous – the list goes on and on and on
P.S

• funkwhale is looking for new maintainers
• fediverse.space is looking for somebody to overtake
• vote amy

Personally I would be interested if we can break free from clones of hypercapitalist services because I do not like kings. If we can begin to use ActivityPub as described in the specification and use the users server with diverse clients. Personally I do not have any interest in the data of my users. A client is fine for me.
</personalOpinion>