The Horizon Europe Info Days were just held, where the EC presented their strategies and funding programs for the coming years.
Existing funding programs for federated apps will come to an end, as a new Horizon Europe programme starts. Hordes of companies and projects are fishing for the significant amounts of money that is distributed the coming years.
There are many developments and opportunities that exist now. And I think most fedizens are not in the loop. Therefore this wiki post to plan a meeting to discuss the ins and outs.
(NOTE: This is a wiki post that anyone can edit. Please edit and add agenda points and other relevant details)
Iâm an individual and assuming that even trying to understand what Horizon Europe 2021 is about will consume more energy than I can afford. Yet, I applied for grants in the past and Iâm interested in applying for new grants, eventually. When cascading grants are created by large organizations (for instance https://dapsi.ngi.eu/ or NGI Projects | Next Generation Internet), to reduce the administrative overhead to something that is more in line with individuals or NGOs.
I am curious about these things myself, and to hear from people that are more in the loop. Unfortunately I just learned that due to circumstance I am not able to join myself on Saturday at the proposed time.
that is very right.
Horizon itself also created an industry of companies doing nothing else in specialising in this âoverheadâ and paperwork and receive lots and lots of money and burn it.
The GAFAM gets billions through it.
Personally, we applied with 8 people for both, DAPSI and NGI Zero over 3 years but this brought us also nothing than paperwork.
The same for some partner projects of redaktor.
But the logic of Horizon would be similar to what mastodon did with the eunomia.social project.
They have built a consortium with a media partner and a university:
Then some people familar with the matter can do the administrative overhead.
That would need implementors to team and build what they call consortium.
I can help to find a media partner and we would contact the universities we have contacts with âŠ
My main motivation for a meeting is that I will have a call with the Head of Unit, Prabhat Agarwal soon and want to know, what the ActivityPub Community wants him to know.
There is a nice article about Agarwal in german âŠ
Please everybody, guide them about the general digital principles and raise awareness for the fediverse and ActivityPub in this â Public Consultation
And the new Horizon Clusters / Programmes will pop up now and the Policy Group wants to organise a roundtable with edri after the EU summer break.
Are the grant applications and refusals published in a public place ?
I was surprised not to find any when I started working on the grant application earlier this year. The most difficult part when filling an application is to figure out how to write something that makes sense to the experts judging it. And the lack of examples to get inspiration from is a real handicap. That was my motivation for publishing the application we submitted as well as all the correspondence with the grant organization.
I filled the survey (after retrieving my lost password ).
This is very kind of you but I think I now have a good understanding of how it goes. There is a lot of value in publishing rejected applications because, together with the rejection notice, it shows the kind of things that should be avoided. There is a little bit of that in a successful application too (for instance fedeproxy got negative grading because âWork plan with accompanying milestones is credible but should be more elaborated on though.â), but it is less enlightening.
Hello! No worries It was just @Sebastian and myself in the meeting and it lasted about 2h. As a summary, we had a free discussion broadly on the following topics:
a feedback on the NGI0 event and opinions on financing AP projects - from Sebastian
the AP community and activities happening on the policy side
we discussed a bit also on the topic of a legal entity for this community and how that could look like
future opportunity to get involved in a roundtable to be organized by edri - the contact person would be Jan Penfrat - Sebastian spoke with him to about this
participating in a meeting with Prabhat Agarwal on the 29th of July, where @mathewlowry would be present as well - Matthew, I am tagging you here, as I understand from Sebastian that you wanted to participate to that meeting
As this time it was only Sebastian and myself in the call, we thought to come up with the proposal of a second meeting 2 weeks from now, which he proposed in this pinned post: 2021-07-24 SocialCG Policy SIG Meeting
I propose to have this meeting from the 24th and / or discuss on the forum prior, especially regarding the communication with Prabhat Agarwal & edri event Sebastian was talking about.
I also proposed to use the ideas we worked at for the NGI0 AP for Administrations presentation and have the community improve / adjust the content for the occasion. This is just a proposal and would require a common effort. The point would be to ensure that this is a common message, as previously - I think that this is important for the AP community.
In any case, letâs keep in touch about this and enjoy the sunny days
Well, right now, it is just that @mathewlowry and @Sebastian were asked by Prabhat Agarwal to attend the meeting. Not the other way around âŠ
I thought, maximum transparency is asking the community for feedback.
The policy group reached its first goal and as you can see from the protocol, it was my next task to do a next meeting. Since we said, we lobby with edri, this could then be the edri roundtable.
Thanks for the info, both of you. Very interesting topics indeed. Note that in terms of community work for SocialHub I have created two topics that are relevant:
Yes, the EU started a pilot. I think it is up to us to help them improve themselves and also to make them feel at home, and show that thereâs value in keeping these channels and expanding their activities.
Various directorates operate the different accounts. It is EDPS that faciltated and deployed the servers for EUVoice and EUVideo. But the owner of the servers is DG COMM, and they operate the @EU_Commission account. They donât know what to think of Fediverse, and whether it is worth the extra effort to manage these channels. We should prove that it is worth doing so.
Otherwise the pilot may end, and not get a follow-up.
PS. There is an opportunity to give some kind of a Fediverse training to the EU folks operating the channels. Explain how Fediverse is different, what the mechanisms are, and importantly some stuff about culture and fediquette, plus communication style that may work best. If anyone is interested in preparing such an event, they can contact me. Maybe something for you @mathewlowry or @CristinaDeLisle ?
Actually DIGIT is operating the servers as system supplier, with EDPS still system owner. Getting DIGIT to agree to this was a major step forward. DIGIT is increasingly a MShop, but within it there is an Open Source Project Office, which is critical. However COMM is starting to take this seriously (when I was active last year they were still in âwatchâ mode) and will probably take over as system owner at some point.
For the moment I think itâs the EDPS, as system owner, which is creating accounts. Their policy seems, from what I can see, to limit accounts to Institutions, perhaps projects, although if a VIP asked I guess they would agree,
Why arenât we seeing people? Well, this is being rolled out in a very different environment compared to the arrival of 1st gen social. Twitter and co. appeared and were adopted by individuals across the institutions, publishing in their own name, before the institutions could create social media policies (click here and scroll down to see my blog posts from that era tagged #eu and #socialmedia). The adoption of Fediverse by the Institutions is likely to be far more controlled.
Right now it looks like theyâre just dipping their toes in the water: theyâre not even displaying on the landing page how many replies each post gets!
I agree we should make sure that water is nice and warm I also believe, given the above policy, that thereâs room for a server oriented towards the EU Bubble, Anyone want to help me set one up?
No, a public one. That way those in the EU bubble who are âfedi-curiousâ can join the Fediverse without having to look too far or do too much. And of course theyâll be able to follow the EU accounts.
And if noone follows the EU on the fediverse, how long do you think theyâll pursue this pilot?
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I also believe, given the above policy, that thereâs room for a server oriented towards the EU Bubble, Anyone want to help me set one up?